Rant about Dish Network Promo

[Nancy]

I was online, getting ready to switch to Dish Network from
Comcast cable, and when reading the "terms of agreement" ... I
saw this:

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***WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE PRICES, PACKAGES AND
PROGRAMMING AT ANY TIME, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION,
DURING ANY TERM AGREEMENT PERIOD TO WHICH YOU HAVE
AGREED. ***WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE YOUR PAYMENT TERMS IF
YOU FAIL TO MAKE PAYMENTS BY YOUR PAYMENT DUE DATE.
***YOU ARE STILL BOUND BY THIS AGREEMENT IF YOU
CHANGE YOUR RESIDENCE. ***
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What the hell !???

And what has really been bugging me is what ALL TV service
providers consider "Premium Channels", for example . History,
SyFy, TNT, and TruTV, etc. that have incessant commercials . one
after another. and so many that it honestly gets to the point
where I forget what I was watching!

These type of channels should not only be thrown off the
"Premium" channel list, but we should get paid to watch them!

All subscribers should have a protest and cancel subscriptions
until they lower prices.

Just think of it.. The "Dish Network Promotion" of $25 has a two
year commitment which becomes $45 per mo after the first year...

That comes to $50 for basic TV- WITH NO PAY CHANNELS!!!!!!!!!

NO COMMERCIAL FREE CHANNELS!!!! There also is no BET, SPIKE,
Trutv, and no "Animal Planet", plus other channels excluded from
this package that I forgot .

Those channels cost more !!!!!

And to top it all off, this is written in that agreement:

***WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE PRICES, PACKAGES AND
PROGRAMMING AT ANY TIME, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, DURING ANY
TERM AGREEMENT PERIOD TO WHICH YOU HAVE AGREED. ***

What @#$holes.

If there is anybody out there that knows of a decent TV service
provider for the Midwest USA.....

Please let me know.


Nancy

[Lloyd Parsons]

Post by Nancy
I was online, getting ready to switch to Dish Network from
Comcast cable, and when reading the "terms of agreement" ... I
------------------------------------------
***WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE PRICES, PACKAGES AND
PROGRAMMING AT ANY TIME, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION,
DURING ANY TERM AGREEMENT PERIOD TO WHICH YOU HAVE
AGREED. ***WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE YOUR PAYMENT TERMS IF
YOU FAIL TO MAKE PAYMENTS BY YOUR PAYMENT DUE DATE.
***YOU ARE STILL BOUND BY THIS AGREEMENT IF YOU
CHANGE YOUR RESIDENCE. ***
==================================
What the hell !???
And what has really been bugging me is what ALL TV service
providers consider "Premium Channels", for example . History,
SyFy, TNT, and TruTV, etc. that have incessant commercials . one
after another. and so many that it honestly gets to the point
where I forget what I was watching!
These type of channels should not only be thrown off the
"Premium" channel list, but we should get paid to watch them!
All subscribers should have a protest and cancel subscriptions
until they lower prices.
Just think of it.. The "Dish Network Promotion" of $25 has a two
year commitment which becomes $45 per mo after the first year...
That comes to $50 for basic TV- WITH NO PAY CHANNELS!!!!!!!!!
NO COMMERCIAL FREE CHANNELS!!!! There also is no BET, SPIKE,
Trutv, and no "Animal Planet", plus other channels excluded from
this package that I forgot .
Those channels cost more !!!!!
***WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE PRICES, PACKAGES AND
PROGRAMMING AT ANY TIME, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, DURING ANY
TERM AGREEMENT PERIOD TO WHICH YOU HAVE AGREED. ***
If there is anybody out there that knows of a decent TV service
provider for the Midwest USA.....
Please let me know.
Nancy

Nice rant, hope you feel better now... :)

Dish, Direct and others do what they do, under the terms they do it.
That is a fact of life. And I think those paragraphs are the same or
nearly so, with all of them.

If you really want to rant, go check your credit card contract!

[Kimba W Lion]

Post by Nancy
NO COMMERCIAL FREE CHANNELS!!!! There also is no BET, SPIKE,
Trutv, and no "Animal Planet", plus other channels excluded from
this package that I forgot .

Spike _is_ in the cheaper package.

Post by Nancy
If there is anybody out there that knows of a decent TV service
provider for the Midwest USA.....

If you find any TV provider that doesn't have the same or worse clauses, let
us know. Everything you named is standard across all providers. Yeah, the
practice of bundling channels sucks, but it's not going to change because the
channels are scamming their advertisers: "We're in 100 million homes" even if
nobody in those homes wants those channels.

At least Dish's outages are practically nil compared to cable.

And with one of Dish's DVRs, every channel is practically commercial-free. Set
a timer for any show you want to watch, and even if you want to watch it
"live", don't start watching a half-hour show until it's been on for at least
10 minutes; 20 minutes for an hour show. Then you can watch it from the
beginning, skip through the commercials, and finish about the same time the
live show finishes.

[Klaatu]

Post by Kimba W Lion

Post by Nancy
NO COMMERCIAL FREE CHANNELS!!!! There also is no BET, SPIKE,
Trutv, and no "Animal Planet", plus other channels excluded from
this package that I forgot .

Spike _is_ in the cheaper package.

Post by Nancy
If there is anybody out there that knows of a decent TV service
provider for the Midwest USA.....

If you find any TV provider that doesn't have the same or worse clauses, let
us know. Everything you named is standard across all providers. Yeah, the
practice of bundling channels sucks, but it's not going to change because the
channels are scamming their advertisers: "We're in 100 million homes" even if
nobody in those homes wants those channels.
At least Dish's outages are practically nil compared to cable.
And with one of Dish's DVRs, every channel is practically commercial-free. Set
a timer for any show you want to watch, and even if you want to watch it
"live", don't start watching a half-hour show until it's been on for at least
10 minutes; 20 minutes for an hour show. Then you can watch it from the
beginning, skip through the commercials, and finish about the same time the
live show finishes.
--
Intelligent Life Is All Around Us
http://intelligentlife.info/

Great advice. I dont watch anything live anymore. EVERYTHING gets time
shifted.

[Nancy]

Post by Kimba W Lion

Post by Nancy
NO COMMERCIAL FREE CHANNELS!!!! There also is no BET, SPIKE,
Trutv, and no "Animal Planet", plus other channels excluded
from
this package that I forgot .

Spike _is_ in the cheaper package.

Post by Nancy
If there is anybody out there that knows of a decent TV service
provider for the Midwest USA.....

If you find any TV provider that doesn't have the same or worse clauses, let
us know. Everything you named is standard across all providers. Yeah, the
practice of bundling channels sucks, but it's not going to
change because the
channels are scamming their advertisers: "We're in 100 million
homes" even if
nobody in those homes wants those channels.
At least Dish's outages are practically nil compared to cable.
And with one of Dish's DVRs, every channel is practically
commercial-free. Set
a timer for any show you want to watch, and even if you want to watch it
"live", don't start watching a half-hour show until it's been
on for at least
10 minutes; 20 minutes for an hour show. Then you can watch it
from the
beginning, skip through the commercials, and finish about the
same time the
live show finishes.
--
Intelligent Life Is All Around Us
http://intelligentlife.info/

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Thank you. That actually is a good idea.
Of course, I will have to add yet another $20 to the monthly cost
for the DVR's.

Remember a while back, someone came up with a VCR or DVD
player/recorder that would automatically skip commercials? I
also remember the idea freaked out advertisers and squashed that
idea.

I am surprised they did not put a stop to the DVR
commercial-omitting technology.

I have to keep in mind that an hour show on TNT, for example,
would end up being a 20 minute show.

I had some friends visiting from Norway over, and one nite we
watched some TV.... I was so ashamed of the numerous commercials
that it was unbearable.

I was tempted to get that $500 satellite dish that claims to get
all the pay channels... but with my luck, the networks would
scramble the codes a week after purchasing it.

Thanks for replies.

Nancy

[Warren Oates]

Post by Nancy
Remember a while back, someone came up with a VCR or DVD
player/recorder that would automatically skip commercials? I
also remember the idea freaked out advertisers and squashed that
idea.
I am surprised they did not put a stop to the DVR
commercial-omitting technology.

That's not possible. You can achieve the same thing with any modern
computer and a big hard drive. A frequency analyzer will help identify
the commercials; a kitchen timer will tell you when 30 seconds is up.

Teevee shows are available here:

https://eztv.it/

[philly01]

Post by Warren Oates

Post by Nancy
Remember a while back, someone came up with a VCR or DVD
player/recorder that would automatically skip commercials?  I
also remember the idea freaked out advertisers and squashed that
idea.
I am surprised they did not put a stop to the DVR
commercial-omitting technology.

That's not possible. You can achieve the same thing with any modern
computer and a big hard drive. A frequency analyzer will help identify
the commercials; a kitchen timer will tell you when 30 seconds is up.
https://eztv.it/
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
  -- Fannie Farmer

Yeah, all providers have clauses like that. Legally, they must notify
customers in advance of the changes. Credit card companies have
the same type of language in their contracts.